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Salsa-in-review



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Suggestions for Classes Reply with quote

Nina and Alfred are always looking for classes and workshops to take to improve our technique and styling. Here are some types of classes we would like to see offered and hope that others share in our interest so that Sharon will consider offering classes. Some of our suggestions:

Partner Styling - There are usually ladies styling classes and relatively few men's styling classes; however, as we usually dance together and not by ourselves, it would be nice to have an intermediate/advanced class that focuses on styling when dancing with a partner.

Choreography - Instead of learning a new shine or a turn-pattern each lesson, maybe there is interest in a class where the format involves building shines/patterns into a choreography. The intention being, that at the end of the term you have an entire choreography for a part of a song.

Cuban - The term musicality is often raised, and sometimes when a cuban song comes on, there is a natural tendency to want to dance cuban to the music. We only know a few basic Cuban moves along with some of the Casino Rueda patterns, and it would be fun to develop a larger repertoire of Cuban salsa.

On-2 - I see that there is interest in another forum posting for partners who dance On-2. I think there is much more to dancing On-2 than just the change of what beat you are starting on. An advanced class focusing on the differences in bodymovement On-2 and patterns that are more suited to On-2 would be fun.

Mambo/Footwork/fusion - Have you seen any videos of Mambo kings/queens? Crazy lightning fast footwork? How about the smooth footwork of Usher and Michael Jackson? A lot of salsa dancers integrate a fusion of styles into their shines, and fancy footwork is a key way to look smooth and funky fresh.
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KT



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add to Alfred and Nina's post...

Musicality - I've seen dancers who can sort of predict what will be next in the music, and do shines and style accordingly to the beats and sounds of the song. At first I thought maybe the dancers have choreographed the moves with the song, or were just so familiar with the song that they knew exactly what is coming up next. However, it is obviously not realistic to know EVERY song that they play in the clubs. Is there some way of knowing or learning how to "style" with the music?

Cuban - Definately interested in learning Cuban style salsa! If not a whole class on it, maybe introduce some Cuban style in class.

Cha Cha - I've noticed some clubs will teach Cha Cha as part of their complimentary salsa lesson. And I've been to some clubs that will play a few Cha Cha songs. The dance steps and music is fairly simliar to salsa, infact, I think you can do the salsa steps to a Cha Cha song, except it might look very slow.

Bachata - It's posted in another forum, but I'd definately like to do some bachata workshops!

Body isolations and movements?
Afro-Cuban?
Men's styling?
Performance group for non-helpers?

Just a few ideas! Very Happy
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kerem



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Musicality Reply with quote

Hi KT!

I just want to say couple things about your musicality question.If we want to be able to
pretict the music and dance with it, first of all we have to be aware of our body.This comes with body isolation ,body movement traning and practicing.We have two options:either take
proper lessons and learn have to use our body with music or just listen the music and move our body the way we want.In my opinion both of them musical; however second option does not have any order to create a body movement,and these moves without any order somehow do not look nice.Every art piece (it can be michelangelo' s David or arcitect Sinan 's Blue Mosque or Hemingway's Farewell to Arms) either simetric or unsimetric that has a order to make them aestetic.So if we want to look nice when we dance we have to give an order to our body movement.Learning body isolation and body movement give us right tools to use our body when we dance.Because after this training we will be able to move our body the way we want ;which means if we just want to move our shoulder back and forth with out moving our arms or body,we are going to do that.Ofcourse different dances have different kind of body isolation:bale or jazz and breakdance or hip hop is going be diffirent than eachother.When it comes to salsa mostly salsa dancers prefer to use afro-cuban moves in order to learn body isolation and body movement.But this does not mean we have to stuck with Afro-Cuban moves.Starting with afro-cuban moves better than the others;because as everybody knows, salsa music use a lot of african insturmant: mostly percusions.So because of all these reasons i highly suggest afro-cuban moves and body isolation to every salsa dancer who want to be more musical when they dance.
By the way i want to thanks to Sharon, bringing Tedy Olaso(among some torontonian salsa instructors he is one them who teaches body isolation and body movement) for Helpers outting to give a body isolation and body movement workshop. I believe that is going to be helpfull for all the helpers.
From my personal experiance i can say this:after learning some basic body isolation;lets say shoulder roles ,rumba,body waves etc. we can start to aply them in dancing.I think best way to do this every day at home, ten minutes practice.First we should choose a move.For instance shoulder role.Shoulder roles can be used with trombone and also with percusions.Every song has different structure ,this is why in the begining we should choose which insturement best for that move in that particular song.Lets say trombone.After we get that down we can listen the song(with distingusing the trombone from other insturements) and while we are doing our basic we can use our shoulder roles with trombone.This can be one full count of eigth or half count of eight or we can also do in first half count of eight or second half count of eight. It can be slow ,medium or fast according the music.That is why we should be able to do all moves in different level.One song can be fast or medium fast or slow and also every instrument can have different level of playing in the song.
Finally when we have enough moves to mix them in a song we can start to practice more than one move.I am pretty sure after a while improvment will be seen.
One last tip KT.People whom you have seen in the clup listen salsa songs as much as they can.In their car,at work or in their house.This is also one of the most important thing to be a more musical dancer;because listening more salsa song makes us more familiar with the insturements and how musicians use them in salsa songs.
I believe also taking lady or man styling will help a lot in this matter.
I hope that i answered your question.
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Sharon



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Salsa ON 2 Class Just Posted! Reply with quote

For everyone who asked for a specific Salsa ON 2 class, we have just posted it. This 9 week class will be taught by Trionne Moore who specializes on 2 mambo style. It will be held Saturday afternoons from 4-5pm (just in time to go to the Trinity Church practice after and practice your on 2!).

Thanks for your feedback...keep it coming!!
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Toby



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice - salsa on two class is just what we need. When you go to a congress everyone dances on two and it can get very intimadating if you don't know how to do it. Can;t wait! Who else is joining?
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TwoLeftFeet



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Salsa ON 2 Class Just Posted! Reply with quote

Sharon wrote:
For everyone who asked for a specific Salsa ON 2 class, we have just posted it. This 9 week class will be taught by Trionne Moore who specializes on 2 mambo style. It will be held Saturday afternoons from 4-5pm (just in time to go to the Trinity Church practice after and practice your on 2!).

Thanks for your feedback...keep it coming!!


Hi, on the class list, it doesn't actually say "On-2"... Just says Level 1. Could be misleading as it's not a regular Level 1 class is it? If you could make a clarification, that would be great!
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Sharon



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi TwoLeftFeet!

Actually you are looking at the wrong class. We added a level 1 class as well as a salsa ON 2 class on Saturdays for Trionne. The Salsa ON 2 class is posted in the level 3 and up classes as this is a class for those who have completed level 3 and up.

It is titled:

Salsa "On 2"
Trionne Moore

Hope that helps!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quote a certain Homer J. Simpson in saying: DOH!

Thanks for the clafication Smile
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